POLL: Is Right-to-Work Legislation 'Right' for NH?
Former House Speaker Bill O'Brien is promising to re-introduce the legislation in the upcoming legislative session.
The New Hampshire House of Representatives' push to pass Right-to-Work legislation made national headlines last year.
The House approved the legislation last March, but the Senate then tabled it, since Gov. John Lynch had said he would veto the bill anyway.
Now, former House Speaker Bill O'Brien is promising to be the lead sponsor of Right-to-Work legislation in the upcoming legislative session, which convenes Jan. 2.
"I will be the prime sponsor of Right to Work legislation in New Hampshire this term," O'Brien said in a message on his Facebook page. "Given the Democrat Party majority in the House and that, at least in New Hampshire, the Democrat party hierarchy functions as the political wing of public employee unions, the bill will not pass this term. We intend to use the legislation, however, together with the example of Michigan, as the means of continuing to identify those legislators and legislative candidates who support, and those who oppose, Right to Work legislation." He added that opinion polls show there is "much greater support for Right to Work legislation than is reflected in the current legislative make-up."
The New Hampshire Democratic Party was quick to respond, saying O'Brien remains obsessed "with a radical, out-of-touch agenda that has been roundly rejected by Granite State voters."
TELL US: What do you think? Is Right-to-Work legislation "right" for New Hampshire? Or is Bill O'Brien out of touch with what the citizens of this state really want? Vote in our poll below, and leave a comment with your thoughts.
Katherine Rogers
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
right to work lead to lower wages for our employees
Seamus Carty
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Right to work leads to more jobs for our citizens.
Jan Schmidt
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Seamus, RTW leads to more MINIMUM WAGE jobs.
Seamus Carty
10:50 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012
Right. I am sure that those workers assembling Toyotas, Hondas and Mercedes cars in right to work states are getting minimum wage...... Got ANYTHING to support your assertion?
Right to work lowers the unemployment rate:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324296604578179603136860138.html
Jan Schmidt
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Mark! You missed the biggest reason RTW is back.... Ask O'Brien about campaign financing and special deals he's made.
ForThePeople
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
We already had this article.
Keith F Thompson
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Right to mooch laws are wrong for NH. If you get a benefit from something, you should pay for it. In right to mooch states, workers benefit from the collective bargaining power of unions, and don't have to contribute.
If you get the raises, pensions, health benefits, workplace safety, 40 hour week, overtime pay and vacation days that unions negotiate for on your behalf, you should support the union.
To do otherwise is to expect something for nothing, to ask for a handout, to call for the redistribution of wealth.
No Longer interested
9:52 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
If non-union members benefit from labor contracts negotiated by unions, they should have to pay those unions labor dues, whether or not they actually go to meetings or want to be listed as a member of the union.
Yo get what pay for in the USA, no free rides allowed.
Peter T. Hansen
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Ray just for the record, for all to see and your welcome to check the record in Concord for it is there, the NH house passed the right to work bill WITH an amendment requested by the UNION(S) which clearly stated that if one did not pay union dues they were not entitled to representation by the union for any purpose. BUT when the bill reached the Senate with the amendment those same UNION(S) demanded that the Senate remove the amendment. Clearly both the House and Senate agree with you - nothing for free - and the unions sought only to create talking points by reversing their position every time they unexpectedly received support from the elected officials.
f
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
if the Union was such a good deal they wouldn't have to force people to pay dues and become members.
Patriot
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Peter, check the federal law and see if "the organization" representing labor "shall" represent all workers.
States may pass liberal drug laws but the use of drugs is still regulated by the feds. The state reps can pander to organized labor but if the language is not addressed at the federal level what was accomplished?
Patriot
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
f, there will always be free loaders. That is the problem currently with all societies. Taking care of the needy is not the same as needing to take care of the mooches.
Brian Pannebecker
9:52 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Right-to-Work ("Freedom to Work") is simply about giving individual workers the "Freedom" to decide whether to join a union and pay sues.
Add to that the economic benefits, and it is an easy decision ...
It takes courage to stand up to the union bosses, and some legislators have that courage ... And some don't !
Patriot
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Brian Pannebecker, there are plenty of jobs for people to work without the "Union Boss" watching over you. When people decide to organize there will always be some that want to go at it alone. And fortunately for those people there are plenty of places to go in this country for those people. I love my town and all it has to offer, just don't like the politicians and taxes. Sounds just like RTW advocates.
mnr
9:52 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Sponsor the Right-to-Work legislation? No wonder your the 'former House Speaker'
rick barasso
9:52 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Look at every "right to work" state, see where the average income of their population falls compared to the national average. While the poor are getting poorer and the middle class is shrinking, it's not shrinking fast enough for O'brien and the NH republican party. Which probably explains the election results of last month...
f
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Rick you have your Stats backwards
Patriot
9:50 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
O'Brien and his cohorts just don't get it! If this as well other initiatives were so popular he would not be sit around this term. Maybe he should get with rep Bettencourt and start a small business they can manage on minimum wage. Raising pigs sounds like a winner with all the pork he wants to find.
Jan Schmidt
9:50 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Mark! You missed the biggest reason RTW is back.... Ask O'Brien about campaign financing and special deals he's made.
Peter T. Hansen
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Jan,
Rather than hide behind innuendo would you address specifics that we may all judge for ourselves whether or not there is credible evidence of wrong doing? Speaking of wrong-doing trust you will not once again be supporting the second attempt by a felon from Nashua to illegally gain election to the House?
Jan Schmidt
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
I do not support the candidacy of Laughton, but that seems a strange question here...
And you can find the information you seek about O'Brien and his financial and other dealings with ALEC and its various corporations and organizations just as I and others have done before you. I will not hand feed the information to you as I find people tend to believe what they want when I do, and will believe the product of their own research much more readily.
Tim Condon
9:50 am on Sunday, December 23, 2012
If Wisconsin and Michigan have employee freedom from slavery to unions, why not New Hampshire?
Patriot
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Tim if you believe that you don't understand slavery.
rick barasso
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Tim. See above
Sharon Strickland-Chabot
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
O'Brien and his right wing crazies, as well as Free State lunatics will turn this state bright blue with their insistence on inflicting their views on our great state. Their conservative, no government doctrines are offensive on their own, and doubly so because of their continued use of deceptive or shove it down your throat politics. Every state in the country that has the ridiculously named "right to work" has lower wages and unsafe work conditions. These same idiots want to defund our schools, put guns into every person's hands in the country, and block access to public transportation.
Diane Sheehan
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
NH has the strongest economy so why do we want to copy the bottom 27 economies? Race to the bottom? No thank you.
Peter D'Antonio
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
When the Dems can't win an argument on the merits they have to resort to personal attacks, nothing new here. Union jobs make up a small overall percentage of jobs in NH. We have little to no industrial production here. The southern half of the state commutes to work in MA and our kids are leaving for better jobs elswhere. Our largest employer is BAE and then what? We have a great intelligent workforce but major companies won't consider NH because of our position on right to work. Right to work doesn't effect collective bargaining rights. It leaves the decision to pay dues up to the workers. Give the people the freedom to make their life decisions!
Diane Sheehan
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Ask employers in Manufacturing. It is about lack of rail, and electric costs, NOT unions. And we have some of the best employment figures in the country.
Patriot
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
That is just so crazy! And then you wrote; "When the Dems can't win an argument on the merits they have to resort to personal attacks," Do as I say and not what I do?
Donald Chagnon
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Forced unionism is nothing more than a violation of your first amendment rights. The fact that the unions paid off enough politicians to force you to pay dues or lose your job, doesn't make it right. Unions fear right to work because they know that unless they can threaten a hard worker with loss of job for not paying dues, they will not join. This does not force people to join a union, or say you can't have one, it simply says it should be your freedom of choice to belong or not. It can't get any more American than that.
Patriot
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Show me where the law "forces" you to join a union. That is clearly a lie. You may have to contribute to the cost of a contract to which you benefit, but that is all.
Donald Chagnon
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Patriot, obviously you don't know what you are talking about. Show me where I said a "law" forces you to join a union. Most unions are closed shops, EXCEPT in right to work states. That means if you want to keep your job, you are "FORCED" to pay dues. That is fact. If I wanted to negotiate for my own pay and not pay the thugs I would be fired. That is "FORCE".
Patriot
10:50 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012
I don't know what you are saying @Donald. Your post on 12/23 (above) does not indicate an option to join. I know what a closed shop is and I don't know of any statute that supports a closed shop in NH. If you are right and I could be wrong.
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What did they pay the politician to do?
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You are forced to pay for the maintenance of the contract to which all employees benefit. I will agree that a contract can have good and bad parts. But so does living in a community.
steve forte
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
I realy hope all you folks opposed to right to work drive vehicles manufactured by the big 3. Saying your opposed to right to work and that you support unions is great if thats how you feel. Saying it and then buying a vehicle made in a non union shop and built in a righ to work state is the ultimate hypocrosy.
Duane Kimball
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
People like their forty-hour work weeks. They like their employer provided health care. They like paid vacations. They like working environments without poisons. They like income and job protection as they get older. Yet, so many of those who bask in the light of these accomplishments demonize the very unions that made them all possible. Left to the O'Briens of the world, we would still be in the dark ages of Calvin Coolidge. He and his anti-labor cohorts live in a fantasy land that never existed. It is the land of laissez-fairy tales. It is the land of RTW.
Patriot
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Indentured servants and slavery! To a few' those where the good ole days!
CMZE
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
I have to hand it to you progressive liberals that you sink the lowest of the barrel and you start talking trash BECAUSE you don't know any better. Why can't you get your mouths out of the gutter and have a talk on facts alone. As it stands, states that have had republican governors have seen a steady growth in their economy and a lower unemployment rate which might have something to do with right to work states.
Diane Sheehan
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
And they have the lowest per capita incomes. All of them, all the RTW states. NH is tied for lowest unemployment, and is #1 in per capita income. Again, why would we copy losing policies? They need to copy ours.
Patriot
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Or there could be other reasons!
Susan
10:31 pm on Sunday, December 23, 2012
Right to Work is actually saving union members from the corruption and deception within their own unions. Falling off the fiscal cliff is a "requirement" of all union members, according to the union, and, re-distribution of wealth is the plan. Sure, union pay now is good, because the unions need you to have something to complain about when THEY steal your pensions from the Cayman islands, of which no union member has access to. Just the big bosses. I did my homework about where union member money is invested, and the Cayman's are only one off-shore account. They need union members good and ticked off when they tell you there is no money so you can blame everyone else except them. The more they give now, the more pissed off you will be when it's all taken away. Common Sense tells you to protect yourself, but since when has common sense played any part in the union?
Patriot
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Susan, where can I buy the stuff you are on? Someone asked earlier; show me the links or proof!
Rusty
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
I can't figure out if people are against RTW or just hate Bill O'Brien.
Jan Schmidt
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
I dislike okra, AND any dish prepared with it. It's not that pretty much the same?
Patriot
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
O'Brien is an attorney who had to pass a Bar to become an attorney. He had to jump through a hoop to get a job. He also pays for the right to practice in this state.
He charges a nice fee for his services because he has the right to "practice" Law. Kind of funny how that works!
Why would he give toot as to whether there are unions or not, would not seem to affect him. His employees are all RTW or better in the scrooge world, "employees at will."
If you live in town you pay taxes even if you don't need or use the services. I would love to not pay for the school tax. Don't have water or sewer so that could be eliminated from my bill. How about O'Brien putting in legislation to Right to Live!" NOW there is something I would back O'Brien up with!!!!!!!!
Patriot
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
311:7-g State Bar Association Membership; Vote Required. –
I. The supreme court, pursuant to its power to regulate the practice of law under this chapter and its continuing supervisory authority over attorneys practicing before courts of this state, may assess fees for the purpose of regulating the practice of law and for maintaining a professional conduct committee.
Soujourner Truth
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
The solution to this is simple: how about if you don't want to join a union in a unionized workplace, just don't take the job! It's not like it's a big secret until after you're there a few months. A little personal responsibility is in order here. The job at the salary and benefit level you want is there because a union fought for it. Why should the workplace conform to you?
Franklin Pierce
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Yet another piece of propaganda by leftie Marc devoid of any facts to cloud the agenda. The mindless follow along to demagogue anyone who doesn't exhibit group think. Progressives love to use the power of the state to enforce their ideology.
Merry Christmas to all,and best wishes for the New Year
Patriot
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Franklin Pierce, you seem to resemble all you proclaim the other side does. Where is the statute that forces you to join a union? RSA ????
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Helloooo, FP reread your post! ""The mindless follow along to demagogue anyone who doesn't exhibit group think. Progressives love to use the power of the state to enforce their ideology.""
Is this not about O'Brien trying to pass legislation "Right to Work?" Is there not a group working on this legislation?
NH Labor News
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
I am always amazed at the complete lack of facts in the comment stream here.
1 The unions did not nor would they ever ask for any RIGHT TO WORK for less legislation.
2 They would never ask for a reduction in exclusive bargaining.
3 Nobody is forced to join a union, you are required to pay for their representative services only.
4 Unions are not sending their money to the cayman islands to avoid taxes
5 Right To Work does not increase jobs this is why the RTW debate has shifted from jobs to a FREEDOM (which is a crock, refer to # 3)
6 Right to work laws are created to weaken collective bargaining and weaken the union (hopefully break it). RTW states pay less, have less healthcare, higher poverty, higher child mortality, higher dependence on safety net programs like welfare and food stamps.
Right to Work for less laws are bad for any state, they are going to help new hampshire's economy (which is one of the strongest in the US) it is an attempt for the ideological right to destroy the only protector of the middle class left.
When unions were more prevalent, wages were higher and the income inequality was minimal unlike today.
wm as it is.
7:51 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
then people will join ,or not. by the way i was forced to join a union after work in the parking with threat of violence. i was also threatened to sign grievance's i did not believe in. this happened in the 70's and 80's but i have not seen much change in union management since.
steve forte
8:21 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
NH Labor News Network
6 Right to work laws are created to weaken collective bargaining and weaken the union (hopefully break it). RTW states pay less, have less healthcare, higher poverty, higher child mortality, higher dependence on safety net programs like welfare and food stamps.
Do you have any supporting data that RTW is what causes this?
Lets not forget most right to work states have more
Minorites
Less educated people
crime
Coyuld these other issues be causing the same results? Of course they could.
Riley Reid
7:48 am on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Right to work for less. O'Brien must be getting a kick back from ALEC for pushing for this again and again. Go away, NH doesn't need it!
Seamus Carty
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
"States That Bar Mandatory Union Dues Tend Toward More Jobs but Lower Wages"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324296604578179603136860138.html
Jan Schmidt
3:53 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
That's right, and lower the standard of living for the entire community.
Seamus Carty
12:03 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
Having more people working somehow lowers the standard of living for the entire community according to a liberal Democrat. Jan Schmidt is a state rep (D-Nashua). It is frightening to think that she will be casting votes for the next two years...
Patriot
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Ironic how the term "Union" is used.
""During the American Civil War, the Union was a name used to refer to the federal government of the United States, which was supported by the 20 free states and five border slave states. It was opposed by 11 southern slave states that had declared a secession to join together to form the Confederacy. The Union has often been referred to as "the North", both then and now.""
wm as it is.
9:28 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
they were not only the slave states the also represented the democratic party.
Patriot
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
""A trade union (British English), labour union (Canadian English) or labor union (American English) is an organization of workers who have banded together to achieve common goals such as protecting the integrity of its trade, achieving higher pay, increasing the number of employees an employer hires, and better working conditions.
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Originating in Europe, trades unions became popular in many countries during the Industrial Revolution, when the lack of skill necessary to perform most jobs shifted employment bargaining power almost completely to the employers' side, causing many workers to be mistreated and underpaid.""
Close observer
3:29 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Unions "protect the middle class"? Like all those middle class workers at Hostess that the union destroyed? Like all those middle class workers at Chrysler and Government Motors that *would* have been destroyed the companies except the taxpayers were forced to bail them out as a payoff by Obama? Right to work means if you want to join a union, you can. If you DON'T want to join a union, you don't have to. All the supposed "benefits" that non-union workers are "enjoying"? Well then fine; if the union is so great, and those benefits are so great, then the workers will all join voluntarily. But the unions can't allow freedom, because they know they can't compete unless workers are *forced* to give them "protection money.* Screw that.
Jan Schmidt
3:53 pm on Wednesday, December 26, 2012
oh good grief - the first talking point was that unions destroyed Hostess - only to find out that they did the most to save it, while management drained it dry.
But the first thing you hear, you believe forever. Even when handed the truth...
Close observer
10:50 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012
Sorry. False union-lie. The UNIONS KILLED Hostess.
Patriot
10:50 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012
Jan it makes no sense to argue with anyone that thinks labor take the biggest piece of the pie.
"""Mulally earned $68,247,702 in 2011, most of which can be attributed to more than $58 million in stock award gains. Mulally's total compensation in 2011 more than tripled what he made in 2010, when he ranked No. 3. That year, his stock award gains accounted for only about $9.3 million of his approximately $20.8 million total compensation.
Mulally is reaping the benefits of Ford's continuing recovery,"""
Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20120604/OEM02/306049986#ixzz2GCqUaho5
http://www.autonews.com/article/20120604/OEM02/306049986/1179
Patriot
10:50 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012
As time goes on we will find that the CEO's took the cash instead of maintaining the company. Drain the cash and sell the remains, so goes corporate life. Let the peasants fight over the crumbs.
Seamus Carty
10:50 am on Thursday, December 27, 2012
"But the first thing you hear, you believe forever. Even when handed the truth..."
Attacking the poster again...
wm as it is.
12:03 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012
if the unions have something to offer anyone in a rtw state they are free to join. but having been a member( not by choice) of the two largest unions in this country you would be hard pressed to convince me of that. how many of the top companies to work for are union?.
Patriot
8:21 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
You have an option in NH to join or not, all that is in place is an obligation to pay your fair share for the contract.
RTW is nothing more than a warranty that you can be a free loader, on the backs of people the negotiate better working conditions.
Individuals negotiate great working contracts until they get older.
Charles Hatch
10:55 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
NO ......
THIS POTENTIAL STATE LAW IS SLAVE LABOR.
A REPUBLICAN IDEA.
Patriot
8:21 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
When we get bombarded by unskilled labor willing to work for pennies on a dollar everyone will see how and who benefits. Just wait!
wm as it is.
8:21 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
by the way one of the largest union locals pension fund in the country that they managed is only 20% funded i dare you to check out the rest.